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Question: this talk of a satan and of the idea of a soul being extinquished-what a joke! energy cannot be extinquished! satan is the early writers not understanding the idea of the neagative polarity. the positive and the negative-both are existant so that the god energy can experience the ALL OF IT-THE GOOD AND THE BAD. BASICALLY THATS ALL WERE HERE FOR -and that is for god to experience itself NOT JUST A HIMSELF {but as male or female or both-yes some biological creatures share both a male and female being-amoeba,etc.} all is meant to evolve-a being cannot not stay in evil forever and a being is not limited in the
amount of time that person has before he/she becomes extinquished! what a joke! ha! why would god want to extinquisch itself! ALL is meant to evolve! you obviously were brought up as a catholic or some kind of christian church and now you are not content with being a catholic or whatever christian faith so you now mix your catholic views with new age beliefs like neile donald walschs material which is more closer to the truth which is tied in LOVE than to your ideas of a soul having so much time before it becomes extinquished! satan is an idea that the early writers came up for they could not understand of an intelligent power that was not a being like themselves--so instead of simply understanding "negative energy" one of the polarities which is one of the basis of the laws of attraction -the focus on an energy -positive or negative-that brings that energy manifested to you in physical form.they -the EARLY BIBLE WRITERS-made up a being-a satan.and like wise made up this "father in heaven " which is also false.there is no father in heaven.there is no hell or heaven that we go to UNLESS YOU CHOOSE IT! WE CREATE IT! THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS WITHIN US ! there is no where to go only be! positive or negative ! being positive or negative brings positive or negative manifestations to us in physical form.fast if done with expectation and a knowing! this father in heaven idea was the early writers trying to put into words " an intelligent positive energy" -basically early man could only see something as being a being like itself so it made god a "father in heaven" which is false,there is no father in heaven or a hell that you go to,karma is an illusion,you create IN THE NOW,by your thoughts words and deeds that you perform NOW not by things you did in your previous life-that is why you are kept from consciously remembering your past lives-it all doesnt matter.all that matters is now-your power lies in your now -not in your past.IN WHAT YOU put your thoughts on now on what you speak now on what you do now is all that matters! you are more than forgiven -the past is irrelevent -all that matters is now.NICE TRY TRYING TO MIX YOUR CHRISTIAN /CATHOLIC VIEWS WITH SPIRITUALITY-YOU STILL "REEK" OF CHRISTIANITY-OF A FEAR/GUILT TEACHING.NOTICE I SAID REEK NOT STINK.YOURE GETTING CLOSER TO THE TRUTH.WHAT I SENT YOU HERE SHOULD HELP YOU EVOLVE CLOSER TO TRUTH WHICH IS LOVE AND LOVE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS INSANE IDEA OF A SOUL EXTINQUISHING.AND PLEASE DONT USE JESUS NAME LIKE THIS.YOU DO SO AS AN INJUSTICE.YOU MAY BE CHANNELING BUT YOU ARE STILL GREATLY TIED UP IN EGO THAT SHOWS BY YOUR GUILT /FEAR CONCEPT OF THIS KARMA IDEA AND OF THIS EXTINGUISHING OF THE SOUL IDEA.etc.......BLESSED BE AND NAMESTE TO YOU.EVOLVE AND LOVE LIFE.LOVE IS ALL THERE IS TO CHOOSE UNLESS YOU CHOOSE OTHERWISE.IN THE END ALL CHOICES OF THE "END BEINGS" WHICH ARE HIGHLY EVOLVED WILL BE MADE IN LOVE AND LOVE AND CHOICES MADE ONLY IN LOVE WILL BE ALL THAT IS MADE!!!!!!


Answer from Jesus:

You say that energy cannot be extinguished. Yet virtually all religions talk about a beginning, and even modern science affirms this in the theory of the Big Bang. If something had a beginning, it follows logically that it can also have an end.

I am aware that scientists have formulated the first law of thermodynamics, which states that energy cannot be created or destroyed. Yet that law was formulated by human beings who look at life from inside the material universe. The law is correct in that there is no force in the material universe which can create or destroy energy. However, God is the creator of all that ever existed, including energy. Because God created energy, God can also extinguish that energy.

A soul is made from spiritual energy, which has a higher vibration than any of the energies in the material universe. Therefore, no force in the material world can destroy a soul. Yet precisely because the soul is made from spiritual energy, energy that was created by God and thus had a beginning, it is possible that the soul can also be extinguished.

Another principle you might want to consider is the idea that energy can be transformed into other forms of energy. If you make a beautiful ice sculpture and then heat the water until it turns into steam, you have transformed the water into another state, and in that state there is nothing left of the former ice sculpture. Likewise, a soul can be said to be a complex pattern of energy waves. It is the particular form of the energy waves that gives the soul its individuality. Yet if the energy that makes up the soul is transformed into a higher vibration, the characteristics that gave the soul its individuality are extinguished. Therefore, the soul, as it was, is truly gone.

The core of the soul is its sense of identity. In reality, the soul is a spiritual being, but in this world, the soul is what it sees itself as being. That is why a soul can choose to rebel against the laws of God, meaning the laws of growth and constant self-transcendence, and thereby refuse to grow and transcend. This is then what can cause the soul to become so firmly trapped in a limited sense of identity that it remains in that identity indefinitely.

When God gave souls free will, it became possible that souls could rebel against the law of growth and create a limited sense of identity that was in complete opposition to their true identity as spiritual beings who are truly individualizations of God. A soul has a right to create such a limited sense of identity, but it does not have the right to remain in that sense of limitation forever.

If the Law of Free Will had stood alone, a soul could have remained in a limited state forever. This would have meant that the energies of God, which God lovingly allowed to be embedded in the soul, would have been trapped there forever. This would not have been fair, neither to God nor to the soul. Therefore, the Law of Free Will was balanced against the Law of Self-transcendence. This law states that a soul cannot remain in a specific sense of identity indefinitely.

If you cannot remain in a limited sense of identity indefinitely, it follows logically that there must come a time when the soul has to “choose this day whom you will serve,” meaning that it has to transcend its limited sense of identity or cease to be. This fact is what made it necessary to create the ritual of the second death, whereby the energies that are trapped in a limited sense of identity can be set free. When the soul goes through the second death, the soul does not actually disappear. Instead, the soul is recreated according to its original blueprint. Yet all of the soul’s experiences, and the limited sense of identity it had created, are truly extinguished. Therefore, the sense of identity that the soul had chosen to create is gone, as if it had never existed.

So God is not actually extinguishing itself. He is repolarizing his energies to their original purity. As you say:


all is meant to evolve—a being cannot not stay in evil forever and a being is not limited in the amount of time that person has before he/she becomes extinquished!

If you care to step back and take a look at this statement, you will see that it is contradictory. When you recognize that the soul has free will, you realize that it can choose to stay in evil for an indefinite period of time. Yet as you say, God does not want a soul to stay in evil forever. However, unless God was to violate the Law of Free Will, how could he prevent a soul from staying in a limited sense of identity? God cannot force the soul to evolve, because doing so would be a violation of the Law of Free Will. God has given souls free will, and no force created by God will violate that free will.

Yet the Law of Free Will also states that you only have a certain amount of time to self-transcend. If you refuse to grow, your opportunity will be lost through your own free-will choosing. This is the only way that God can, without violating their free will, prevent souls from being trapped forever.

You talk about the ancient writers creating the concepts of Satan and the Father in heaven. There is some truth to what you say, in the sense that human beings truly have created false gods, as I explained elsewhere. However, in reality there are many intelligent beings that exist in the spiritual realm. And one of these beings deserves to be called God the Father. That God is not as described by most religions, including modern-day Christianity. However, there is an intelligent creator who acts as a father figure for the material universe.

Likewise, as Mother Mary explains in her discourse, there are intelligent beings who have deliberately chosen to rebel against God’s laws. These beings have chosen to embody a state of consciousness that is the antithesis of God’s law of growth. As Mother Mary explains, the material universe is created out of two complementary forces, namely the expanding and the contracting force. Mother Mary also explains that the beings who chose to rebel against the law of growth have perverted the contracting force and turned it into the force that most people call evil. However, this is not an inevitable part of God’s design. Absolute evil is not the opposite polarity of God good, as I explain elsewhere.

What human beings call evil is a force that is relative. In other words, it is not in opposition to God but only in opposition to the concept of good created through the duality of the carnal mind. I explained this in some detail elsewhere.

The basic belief expressed in your letter is a belief that is found in some New Age circles and in some Eastern religions. The problem with this belief is that if you take it to its logical extreme, it is completely fatalistic. It paints a picture of a universe in which God has created both good and evil, and in which what human beings call good will ultimately triumph over what they call evil.

The consequence of his view is, as you even say yourself, that nothing really matters. This is a complete denial of free will and the importance of self-transcendence through your conscious choices. In reality, this is the very lie that the serpent used to tempt Eve in the Garden of Eden. It is embedded in the saying, “Thou shall not surely die.” In other words, it doesn’t really matter that you violate God’s commands because nothing really bad can happen. God has created a world in which good and evil are simply complementary, so you can do whatever you want, and in the end everything will turn out just fine. This is a very subtle lie that is very persuasive, but it is nevertheless completely wrong. It is truly the way that seems right unto a human, but the ends thereof are the ways of death.

The reality of life is that God has given souls free will. By using that free will correctly, a soul can keep self-transcending until it actually becomes an individual creator, which has the same powers as the God who created this universe. However, the only way to ascend to that level is to constantly choose to let go of any limited sense of identity that causes you to see yourself as being separated from or less than the fullness of God.
The lie promoted by Lucifer, Satan and all other souls who deliberately rebelled against God, is that you can still return home to God by doing evil. They portray evil as the opposite polarity of God-good, meaning that even if you choose to rebel against God’s laws, you will still ultimately arrive at the same place. This is not true, and one important reason is, as explained by Mother Mary, that in order to reach this state of Godhood, you must be willing to be the servant of all. When you rebel against God’s law, you are doing the opposite of serving all life.

It is true that if you rebel against the laws of God, you will ultimately return to God. The energies that make up your soul will be returned to their original state through the ritual of the second death. However, as explained above, all of the memories, all the things your soul should have learned through embodying in the material universe, will also be erased. Therefore, you will have to start all over again as a new soul instead of continuing the growth spiral that leads you to greater and greater maturity, until you become all that God is.

Do you see the fundamental difference? Yes, you will inevitably return to your starting point. The only question is whether you will return to your starting point as more than you were when you were created. Only by becoming more than you were created to be, can you fulfill the law of growth. The essence of evil is the refusal to self-transcend and become more. This is a denial of love, which is the basic force that caused God to create the universe, as explained in the following discourse.
You say:


karma is an illusion,you create IN THE NOW,by your thoughts words and deeds that you perform NOW not by things you did in your previous life-that is why you are kept from consciously remembering your past lives

This is a misunderstanding of the mechanical aspects of the material universe. What you do create in the now is your sense of identity, and you do recreate that every waking moment. Therefore, you can – theoretically – choose to change your sense of identity at any moment. However, even that can be difficult because your past choices have created psychological wounds in your soul. These wounds are caused by decisions you made, and until you consciously undo those decisions and replace them with better decisions, you will not be free of those choices. Therefore, you cannot change the sense of identity based on those choices.

The law of karma simply describes the mechanical aspects of how the material universe works. Your soul can survive only because it receives a stream of spiritual energy from your I AM Presence. If you qualify that energy with a vibration that is above a certain frequency, above a certain mark, the energy will become your treasure laid up in heaven. It will return to you multiplied, as explained in my parable about the talents.

If you qualify the energy below the critical mark, you miss the mark and commit what Christians have traditionally called a sin. The misqualified energy will be stored in your personal energy field and in the energy field of planet earth. Therefore, when you return to your next embodiment, you will be affected by that energy. You cannot permanently ascend to the spiritual realm until you have requalified all energy that you misqualified while in embodiment on Earth. So it is simply not true that you can, at any moment, choose to walk away from your karma or any other aspect of your past.

The choices you made in your past have set the stage for who you are right now. You cannot simply choose to be someone else without going back and replacing the limiting decisions that you made in the past.

I do not quite understand how you can recognize the reality of past lives but at the same time deny that your past lives have any influence on your present life. I think that if you look at the logical consequences of this view of reincarnation, you will see that is not quite consistent.

In fact, you might discover that is springs mainly from an unwillingness to take responsibility for your life and recognize that you can only improve your present and future circumstances by undoing the imperfect choices you made in the past. Most people who are unwilling to take responsibility for their lives choose to outright deny the reality of reincarnation. Yet some people have managed to create a new version of the concept of reincarnation, which allows them to recognize that they have had past lives but at the same time deny that those past lives have any influence on the present. I cannot quite follow the logic of this belief in reincarnation without karma. How can you have your cake and eat it too?

Finally, let me say that the tone of your letter suggests that you are emotionally attached to certain ideas, such as the idea that the soul cannot be extinguished. If you truly believe that nothing really matters, because ultimately everything will be okay in the end, then I see no reason for writing a letter that expresses such strong emotions.

It would be beneficial for you to consider why you have this emotional attachment, and I think you would find that the cause is that a part of you does not want your soul to acknowledge the reality of life, namely that you do not have forever to transcend your present sense of identity. This it the human ego, which does not want you to realize that your actions have consequences and because of that there will eventually come an end to opportunity. The ego does not want to acknowledge any finality because that would mean the death of the ego. The ego wants you to believe that you can keep doing what you are doing forever, that nothing you do will have negative consequences and that you can keep postponing the day when you choose whom you will serve. If you can identify the ego, that enemy within, and see that it is not truly a part of your soul, you can make tremendous progress.

You will then find that a new world of growth opportunities will open, and you will discover the true meaning of unconditional love. The concept of love that you present is that nothing really matters because in the end everything will be fine. The truth about unconditional love is that everything matters, because every situation is an opportunity to grow – meaning that you let love flow – or to shut off the flow of love through you. It is true that many religious people, including many Christians, have used fear as an excuse for shutting off the flow of love through them. Yet many people have also used the fatalistic beliefs you promote to put themselves into a state of spiritual indifference, which also shuts off the flow of love.

Divine love is unconditional, which does not mean that it accepts everything – good and evil – as being equally valid. When a human being allows the flow of unconditional love through him or her, that person has the discernment to see what is of God and what is not of God. The person uses that discernment to never accept a limited sense of identity and to never let any of the conditions in this world become an excuse for shutting off the flow of love. You express love no matter what conditions you face, but you never affirm any worldly condition as permanent or ultimately real. Therefore, your love can easily be the tough love that challenges someone to come up higher—as you saw me challenge the scribes and Pharisees.
You say:


LOVE IS ALL THERE IS TO CHOOSE UNLESS YOU CHOOSE OTHERWISE.IN THE END ALL CHOICES OF THE "END BEINGS" WHICH ARE HIGHLY EVOLVED WILL BE MADE IN LOVE AND LOVE AND CHOICES MADE ONLY IN LOVE WILL BE ALL THAT IS MADE!!!!!!

You are correct that the only right choice is to respond to every situation with love—as I told people 2,000 years ago. Any choice that is not made from love is what Christians call a sin. Unfortunately, most people on Earth have chosen otherwise. Because of that, they have become trapped in a state of consciousness that makes it very difficult for them to respond to life with love. You are right that highly evolved beings always choose from love, but unfortunately many souls on Earth are not yet highly evolved.

The stark reality is that a substantial number of people are trapped in a downward spiral that only leads them further away from love. Such souls cannot simply be turned around by a teaching on love, as explained elsewhere. In many cases they can be turned around only through a message that clearly spells out the consequences of what will happen if they keep going in the same direction. And for many souls on this planet, their opportunity to turn themselves around is quickly coming to an end. If they do not turn around and start an upward spiral, they will go through the second death. If they do turn around and start walking the path of Christhood, their time can be extended even beyond their original allotment. God has great mercy on souls who show a sincere desire to come home.

One of the dilemmas we face as spiritual teachers is that many souls on Earth are unreachable with a love-based spiritual message. They are so trapped in a fear-based state of mind that they can be reached only through a message that appeals to their fears. It is a sad fact that the concept of Hell has been necessary to turn some souls around. Such souls responded only when their fear of Hell outweighed the immediate advantages of continuing with their current actions.

Fortunately, we are today moving into an age in which more and more people respond to a love-based spiritual teaching, which is generally what you find on this website. However, it is still necessary to recognize that many people have been deeply affected by a fear-based message. And since one of my goals for this website is to help people become free of the fear-based doctrines they have been given by orthodox Christianity, I will gladly comment on such beliefs when people ask.

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